According to
http://www.nature.com/nsu/040119/040119-10.html
more sleeping boost ceative abilities

Didn't this occur to you sometimes:
You try to find a bug in a program, stay up long in the night but can't find it. Then you go to bed and the next morning you immediately find the bug.

Originally posted by lakibuk
Didn't this occur to you sometimes:
You try to find a bug in a program, stay up long in the night but can't find it. Then you go to bed and the next morning you immediately find the bug.

Very often.

Originally posted by serg3d
According to
http://www.nature.com/nsu/040119/040119-10.html
more sleeping boost ceative abilities

Actually, ive just read in this morning's paper that oversleeping causes people to become more tired and encounter same symptoms as people with insomnia - which kinda explains what i'm feeling right now (after 16 hours of sleeping)

Originally posted by gilzu
Actually, ive just read in this morning's paper that oversleeping causes people to become more tired and encounter same symptoms as people with insomnia - which kinda explains what i'm feeling right now (after 16 hours of sleeping)

No contradiction here. First article promised you will be more smart if sleep more, not feel better ;)
If you brain working while you sleeping it's quite logical to be tired.

Happens to me a lot. I sometimes don't go to sleep until 4 or 5 AM these days. I get to sleep in, but instead of just adjusting 6 or 7 hours so I wake up at 10AM, I find myself waking up at 1PM, which not only wastes my day, but causes me to feel tired and unmotivated. It sucks. Sometimes I find that staying up late to do something makes me at least productive enough to get stuff done so that I don't have to worry about oversleeping and trying to get it done in a shorter span of time.

Originally posted by GBGames
Happens to me a lot. I sometimes don't go to sleep until 4 or 5 AM these days. I get to sleep in, but instead of just adjusting 6 or 7 hours so I wake up at 10AM, I find myself waking up at 1PM, which not only wastes my day, but causes me to feel tired and unmotivated. It sucks. Sometimes I find that staying up late to do something makes me at least productive enough to get stuff done so that I don't have to worry about oversleeping and trying to get it done in a shorter span of time.

I found the same thing. So now if I stay up until 2 or 3 then I try to get up at 9 or 10 something otherwise I waste the entire day and still feel tired anyway. It seems to me that 7-8 hours of sleep is usually the maximum where I can wake up and not be tired.

I like waking up between 6.30-7.30 am after 5-7 hours of sleep. The mornings are sooo beautiful :p

My creativity depends more on the level of my concentration, how deep I can get into my thoughts.

Since Steve Pavlina loves writing "how to" articles so much, maybe we insomniacs should ask him for one on how to fall asleep at will. I know *I'd* find it useful. :p

Someone posted a link to a very long sleep article a while ago here (it would likely turn up in a search on "sleep"). The article's advice for curing insomnia was just to stay awake until you're actually very drowsy and ready to fall asleep. I found this works really well. I used to believe it was best to always go to bed at the same time each night but not anymore. I still get up at the same time each morning, but I go to sleep only when I'm ready to fall asleep. Once I go to bed, I'm usually asleep within five minutes or less... sometimes as little as 2 minutes. If I'm not sleepy, I just stay up until I am. It just means I get more reading done.

If you have insomnia and aren't sleepy then, try just staying up until you're actually sleepy. Forget the clock and just listen to your body. If it says it isn't sleepy, then just enjoy the extra awake time. Reading works great for me because eventually I start nodding off and can't even make it through another page. My typical bed times span a 4-hour range, so it's different every night.

I used to do the "stay up until X AM and get up in the early afternoon" thing but really, I'm much more productive if I stick on a normal schedule. Since my girlfriend moved in, I generally go to bed with her which is around 11pm or so. We get up around 7am and I'm well rested and totally ready to have a productive day.

I don't think anybody is advocating oversleep ... but getting a solid 7-8 hours is generally the best plan. For me, anyway...

I used to do the macho game developer thing - stay up all night, pound Jolt cola and coffee to stay awake, collapse into bed when I absolutely could not take it anymore. Screw that. I'm older and wiser now...

And don't forget, the older you get, you'll need far, far less sleep.

Cas :)

I've tried that strategy before Steve, and found that it just meant my sleeping schedule would be bumped 1 or 2 hours further every day, because I couldn't foce myself to get up at the same time every day. Eventually when you find yourself sleeping from 8am-5pm, it's hard to interact with "normal" people. :(

Shifting forward by about an hour a day is a very "normal" side effect. The 24 hour day isn't natural for some people. It's hard to shift a sleep cycle backwards, even just a few hours, but apparently once it's been shifted forward almost 24 hours, it's easier to lock it in place and keep it from shifting forward any further. The article I previously mentioned included a number of tips on how to accomplish this.

Originally posted by Dexterity
Someone posted a link to a very long sleep article a while ago here (it would likely turn up in a search on "sleep").

That was me. Here's the link again:

http://www.supermemo.com/articles/sleep.htm